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How To Splice Nmea 2000 Cable

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med2463
Nov 6, 2009
353
Hunter 37 FL
  • #1
Installing Garmin GWS 10 wind sensor. Connector on drop cablevision is too big for hole in pedestal bottom to run wire into engine room. Anyone else have this problem? Waiting to hear from Garmin to see if can cut the connector off and and then reattach it to the driblet cablevision then can run it through the pedestal.
Bill Roosa
Jun 6, 2006
half dozen,990
currently boatless wishing Harrington Harbor Northward, Doctor
  • #two
nutering is permissable

You can cut the cable and the splice it back on after passing trhough the hole. Exist sure to get out a pigtail on the plug finish so you accept something to work with and preserve the ground sheath connectedness.

Ed Schenck
Jun ii, 2004
5,802
Hunter 37-cutter, '79 41 23' 30"Due north 82 33' 20"W--------Huron, OH
  • #3
Interesting that they really do await you to cut and splice. My JRC radar really has that in the instructions. The scanner end of the cablevision has a plug that is so big it won't even go in the scanner let alone through the boat, out the transom, and upwardly through the pole. My Nexus wind cable and some others warned confronting changing the length notwithstanding.
Bill1565
Jan 22, 2008
1,483
Hunter 37 C sloop Punta Gorda FL
  • #iv
I think we are gonna get out for Miami without the wind indicator. When we come back in March nosotros can overstate the pigsty in the cockpit sole if necessary. I desire to also supervene upon the 2 meter driblet cablevision. What I desire is a 6 meter drop cable then I can do all of the T connectors and power wiring outside of that itty bitty engine room.

This is our first NMEA 2000 network and we are getting smarter by the hour most information technology. Mary already spliced the musical instrument wire where it exits the mast, and the kit came with a field installable connector for the instrument, just this whole network matter is nightmareish compared to the former single purpose instruments.

Snotter
Sep 25, 2008
615
Morgan 415 Out Island Rogersville, AL
  • #v
Splicing many cables requires butt-connecting small gauge wire. I wonder what Maine Sheet and the rest of you do when wires are besides small for the red butts. I wound up buying pocket-sized-guage butt connectors from Allied. They look like little buttons and are crimped with pliers. They don't have heat-shrink but they do have dielectric grease in them. I wonder how long these connectors would last in a marine environment tucked abroad in a pedastal.
October two, 2006
1,517
Jboat J24 commack
  • #6
Your going to discover they really don't want you cut NMEA 2000 cables as to work in the first place if you don't practise the termination resistors correctly information technology will bring down the network

Bluesea makes a dainty plumbing fixtures that will laissez passer them

Ed Schenck
Jun 2, 2004
five,802
Hunter 37-cutter, '79 41 23' 30"N 82 33' 20"Due west--------Huron, OH
  • #7
Really similar my Nexus system. All the transducers have bare ended wiring making it really easy to run through the boat. I take the "computer" mounted on the inside of a salon settee. It is really just a junction box with an amplifier I think. Then all the instruments are daisy-chained out in the cockpit. Very unproblematic. Wish the radar had been so designed.

Bill, how are you going to Miami? I estimate there are four ways, the canal or Florida Bay or Hawk Channel or the Gulf Stream. I have only washed Hawk Aqueduct, once each fashion. Only swell sailing.

Bill1565
Jan 22, 2008
i,483
Hunter 37 C sloop Punta Gorda FL
  • #8
Not to hijack the thread, merely we are going Florida Bay. Mary has a blog on grocery store access in SW florida, and she will be researching Marco I and probably Everglades City, Marathon,Fundamental Largo and Miami Beach. BTW if yous always get the opportunity spend time in the Publix at South Beach. Humans Similar something out of a Star Wars bar.

Mary has already started a web log for all yous snow jump sailors. Hope she doesn't wave my scrw ups all over the net.

Bill1565
Jan 22, 2008
1,483
Hunter 37 C sloop Punta Gorda FL
  • #9
if you don't do the termination resistors correctly it will bring down the network
Wazzat? Termination resisors is non something we take learned nonetheless. I was not planning on messing with the array of T connectors which say in Garmin diagams that they take Termination resisors at the united nations opened ends.
Bill1565
January 22, 2008
1,483
Hunter 37 C sloop Punta Gorda FL
  • #10
Splicing many cables requires barrel-connecting minor gauge wire. I wonder what Maine Canvass and the rest of you do when wires are too pocket-sized for the red butts. I wound upward buying modest-guage butt connectors from Centrolineal. They expect like little buttons and are crimped with pliers. They don't have heat-shrink but they practise have dielectric grease in them. I wonder how long these connectors would last in a marine environment tucked away in a pedastal.
Mary tinned, twisted and soldered the 5 wires, taped the joints and foil wrapped the two pairs, then taped the whole mess, Bless her nimble fiddling fingers.
joker460
April 27, 2010
956
Beneteau 352 Hull #276 Ontario
  • #11
You can cut and splice. Each wire properly soldered and shrink wrapped and shrink wrap the outside core.
Or
You could just use a new Nmea2000 connector.

I've washed both and both piece of work.

Jun 17, 2007
402
MacGregor Mac26S Victoria Tx
  • #12
Connectors

Those sound similar the connectors that AT&T used on phone lines for many, many years. Since the wire and contacts are sealed within, with dielectric grease, I would think they would be fine.

Splicing many cables requires butt-connecting modest approximate wire. I wonder what Maine Sail and the residual of you do when wires are likewise small for the red butts. I wound upwards buying small-guage butt connectors from Allied. They expect like niggling buttons and are crimped with pliers. They don't have heat-shrink only they practice have dielectric grease in them. I wonder how long these connectors would last in a marine surroundings tucked away in a pedastal.
med2463
Nov vi, 2009
353
Hunter 37 FL
  • #13
You tin cut and splice. Each wire properly soldered and compress wrapped and shrink wrap the outside core.
Or
You could just employ a new Nmea2000 connector.

I've done both and both work.

Hoping that is true, but still waiting on Garmin to verify. Crummy to spend $one,000 on a unit and i connector keeping us from the install. Won't be using information technology on upcoming prowl.:cry:
woodster
Sep 15, 2009
6,243
S2 9.2a Fairhope Al
  • #14
Mary has already started a blog for all you lot snow leap sailors. Promise she doesn't wave my scrw ups all over the net.
i suspect she wont do that as far equally i can tell she is very devoted and with devotion comes over looking ones spiral ups with in reason lol.....you two seem to exist a really cool couple....but if she needs some sense of humour in her blog then it will exist your turn to overlook the screw ups lol ....

regards

woody

Don12364
December 2, 2003
one,637
Hunter 376 Warsash, England --
  • #15
Once Upon a Time!

Boats were laid upward for the winter, masts taken down and rigging preserved in boiled linseed oil.
Manufacturers of everything electric that was mast mounted presumed that this demasting was the norm and, because one was non expected to unlace the wiring right through the gunkhole every time the mast was unstepped, there would always exist a joint box or plug/socket somewhere near the mast heel.
Imagine a yard taking a mast down where in that location was no means of disconnecting all the cables.

So, unless the manual describes how, one may reasonably presume that the equipment manufacturer anticipated that people will brand a removable (and waterproof) connexion in every cable. Usually this is best fabricated below deck in the headlining and through a waterproof deck gland.
Normally cables with individual wires simply crave a connector block or plug/socket. Co-centric cables (to antennas) need co ax plugs.

IMHO what nobody needs are butt joints though.
Bill Roosa
Jun six, 2006
6,990
currently boatless wishing Harrington Harbor North, Doc
  • #16
Snotter. it is called the western spousal relationship pigtail splice. Been using it in place of crimp connections for pocket-sized signal (go figure bespeak!) wires for a very long time.
Tommays. The terminal resistors are in the specially designed end plug you (duh) stop the wire with. You but need the terminating plug at an end that does non take anything connected to it. The purpose is to keep the signal voltage pulses from echoing back along the wire. The wires are just wires and tin be splices normally
Bill1565
Jan 22, 2008
1,483
Hunter 37 C sloop Punta Gorda FL
  • #17
Wow. That's a relief nigh the Terminal resistors. BTW my dad called information technology a "Telegraph splice"

I love this forum. We had Morgans before and their forum had fallen apart years earlier we bought our commencement.

joker460
April 27, 2010
956
Beneteau 352 Hull #276 Ontario
  • #18
But thought of an another way that I accept seen.

Just make up a female/male extension cable (cable and two connectors).

That way you don't have to cutting off the connector (no warrenty problems), It stays inside the mast.

Simply a thought.:)

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Oct 2, 2006
ane,517
Jboat J24 commack
  • #19
I take done some 2000 piece of work and the resistors placement depends on the network setup

A GPS puck only setup requires 1 threescore OHM and a true network a 120 at each stop

kenn
Apr 18, 2009
one,271
CL Sandpiper 565 Toronto
  • #20
Nice diagram, Tom. NMEA 2000 was supposed to not repeat the connection nightmares of 0183, but if the hardware permits the wrong hookup you betoken, then they've missed the marking again :(

Donalex - yearly mast removal is the norm up hither too merely just about no-one seems to have the connections made sensibly. I've seen everything from flight twisted wire (yearly twisted and taped, then just yanked apart at removal) , to concluding strips, to mil-spec Amphenol connectors.

Dorsum to the OP - yes it is possible to cut and then splice the NMEA 2000 cable. Well made, soldered Western-wedlock splices and so taped or tubed will piece of work. For some it might be simpler to make crimped connections:

The first is a butt-splice, the 2d is a closed-finish splice, which I like a bit better considering yous kickoff twist the wires together, it's only one crimp, and information technology'south easy to weatherproof by squirting 3M 5200 into the single open end. leave slack in case the splice always has to be repaired or remade.

Regardless of splice type, it's best to locate the splice somewhere where you can always get to it. Never bury any interconnection in inaccessible places.

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